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Daniel 11 - He Shall Have Power


Preface


Daniel­ 11:36

Introduction


Daniel­ 11:36

According
To His Will


Daniel­ 11:36

The Exalted One


Daniel­ 11:36

Revelation 11 Proof


Daniel­ 11:36

Prosper No More


Daniel­ 11:37

God of his Fathers


Daniel­ 11:37

Desire of Women


Daniel­ 11:38

God of Forces


Daniel­ 11:39

Divide the Land
for Gain


Daniel­ 11:39

Twin Brothers


Daniel­ 11:40

Time of the End


Daniel­ 11:40

Spiritually or Literally


Daniel­ 11:40

He, Him, His


Daniel­ 11:40

Prophecy vs Prophecy


Daniel­ 11:40

Fulfillment


Daniel­ 11:40

Questioning Why


Daniel­ 11:41

Edom, Moab,
& Ammon


Daniel­ 11:42

Egypt Shall
Not Escape


Daniel­ 11:43

He shall have
Power


Daniel­ 11:44

Troubled Times


Daniel­ 11:45

The Tabernacles
of his Palace






The Ottoman Empire Shall Have Power


But he

Ottoman Empire or Turkey

shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.



Stop point: 117:15



In the previous lesson the verse "He shall stretch forth his Turkey hand" meant asking for money according to what was said in the video.
Egypt did not escape meaning he had to pay the money.


Now in this verse it is said he (Ottoman Empire) shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt.


So basically this is saying the same thing.
This is the same quote we looked before.
I think this quote means before 1840.


Formally Egypt continued to be regarded as a pashalik of the Ottoman Empire and Mohammed Ali as its governor and pasha, who was subordinate to the Sultan and the Porte. He preserved the mask of a vassal, but in reality he executed only those of the Porte's orders which were to his advantage and sabotaged those that were not. Egypt had, in fact, become an independent state with its own government, army, laws and tax system. Mohammed Ali paid an annual tribute to the Sultan, comprising approximately three per cent of all budget expenditure, he received investiture from the Sultan, the latter's name was mentioned in the khutbahs and with this ended Egypt's dependence on the Porte. Foreigners called Mohammed Ali the viceroy. (Marxists.org)


And this one is after 1840


The Egyptian Question was settled on June 1, 1841, by a special hatti-sherif (the noble rescript) after long talks between the Powers. Mohammed Ali retained the hereditary pashaliks of Egypt and the Sudan, but gave the Sultan back Syria, Palestine, Cilicia, Arabia and Crete. He reduced his army to 18,000 men. He was deprived of the right to appoint generals in his army and to build warships. He gave Turkey back her fleet. He acknowledged himself the Sultan's vassal and pledged to pay a large tribute into the Sultan's treasury. (Marxists.org)



In context of the video I think were still talking about tribute before 1840.
From 1798 to 1840 Egypt becomes more powerful.


In 1840 the the Great Powers of United Kingdom, Austria, Prussia, Russia held the Convention of London.


On 29 June 1839 Ibrahim Pasha, the son of Mehemet Ali, defeated the Ottoman army in the Battle of Nezib. This crushing defeat offered an opportunity for Mehemet Ali Pasha to potentially take control of Constantinople and essentially the entire Ottoman Empire. Shortly after the defeat Mahmud died leaving his 16-year-old heir Abdulmecid in power. Britain, Russia, and Austria all had a considerable stake in the Ottoman Empire, and so they quickly came to the aid of the young Sultan, which led to the 1840 Convention of London. (Wikipedia)


This is the event that some say was fulfilled by Revelation Nine and the Josiah Litch prediction about the fall of the Ottoman Empire.




To verify what early Adventist taught, I took a quote from here.


A heavy embargo in the way of tribute was placed upon Egypt by Turkey, amounting to a large amount of gold and silver and many thousand measures of corn and barley. (The Advent Review And Sabbath Herald December 26, 1912)


So if this tribute was after at the time of 1840 we are saying...
Daniel 11 - "He (Ottoman Empire) shall have power..."
But at the same time we are also saying...
Revelation 9 - "hour, and a day, and a month, and a year" is predicting it's fall.
Seems a bit of a contradiction if that is the case.


In the end I would say these verses were fulfilled.
Before 1840 makes more sense since the Ottoman's overall had much more power. After 1840 was the beginning of the end just like the prediction foretold.


I still think the language alludes to nation more powerful than what we see here.
The Ottoman Empire from 1798 forward never had much control over Egypt.
Yea they might be getting tributes but does that really mean you have power over the treasures of gold and of silver?


Back then I would either say France or Britain had more power.
Deals are still being made today on who gets profit from Egypt the most.



As far as Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps, neither were powerful at that time.
The Ethiopians were mostly in battle with themselves.
But at times they did push back.



The Libyans were still under control of the Ottoman Empire up until 1913.
France in 1912 began their takeover.



Pirating and the Slave Trading was also a problem in that area for some time.
But I could not find much of anything for the Libyans being at his steps.
Maybe "at his steps" has more to do with getting in line.
Egypt, Libya, & Ethiopians were all now wanted for European trade.
All these Nations were being forced into treaties that more benefited Europe.
Specially after the opening of the Suez Canal.



At the same time of the Italo-Turkish war the Ottoman Empire tried to take Egypt back from Britain but failed.


France Shall Have Power


But he

France

shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver and over all the precious things of Egypt

for a short time in 1798 before France had to leave

: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


Not much to say here as we have been over this ground already.
This is how it was understood at first.


42, " He shall stretch forth his hands also upon the countries ; and the land of Egypt shall not escape." " Hands " signifies power ; and what country on the globe did not more or less feel the effects of Bonaparte's power ? Egypt, surely, did not escape ; for all Lower Egypt was conquered by his arms. 43, " But he shall have power over the treasures of gold, and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt." Bonaparte, in his conquest of Egypt, levied contributions upon the inhabitants of the country sufficient to support and pay his troops, and brought away much with him. " And the Libyans and Ethiopians shall be at his steps." When he first went into Egypt, he landed his army on the coast of what was anciently called Lybia, and his last battle was fought in Upper Egypt -what the ancients called Ethiopia. So both of these places were at his steps, although neither of them was fairly conquered, as was Egypt.
(Miller's Lectures - The Midnight Cry - Vol 1 - Number 21)


I think Uriah Smith's interpretation is what changed it to the Ottoman Empire.
Does France's interpretation fit better here?
France only lasts for a very short time though.



Russia Shall Have Power


But he

Russia

shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


If this is the interpretation, the way I see things is Russia uniting with China.
But Russia could come against the South too.
Both countries are now trying to gain more control of the Suez Canal.
As this video said "this is not a good indicator for the free world order".
I doubt there is any free about it, control over the canal is about the NWO.



I will say in a literal sense that it is amazing how important Egypt is.
If you control the Suez Canal, you almost control the world.



Which in the end I think the United Nations with the Papacy behind it will have control over the Suez Canal.


The Papacy Shall Have Literal Power


But he

Papacy

shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


This video shows Egypt being taken over by Jews, not the Papacy.
I don't know anything about that area, so I can't say.



There are some that think it's the Jews or Zionism that brings in the NWO.
Here is a good debate on that.
You will need to jump about 45min into the video.



The video is above is very long.
If you want something shorter here are a few links.
Zionist "Jews", Khazars & Vatican Jesuit Order - Eric Jon Phelps
The Truth About Zionism - Vatican/Jesuit Connections
Heritage Of Israel - Walter Veith


Of course I believe it's the Papacy who is behind the NWO.
They have been setting up world organizations to accomplish their agenda.
To name a few of them:
IMF, WEF, WHO, UN, WTO, World Bank, NATO, BRICS
What amazes me is that our leaders are all but bowing to them.
And it seems people could care less about handing over our freedoms to them.



I better get back to Egypt and their treasures.
I would say Egypt is even now being taken under control.
These world organizations will be their rulers now.



The Papacy looks to control us all not by a gun but by dept.


And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (Rev 13:16-17)



Is this the beginning of the end?
Cause here in America banks are starting to fall.



The Papacy Shall Have Spiritual Power


But he

Papacy

shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.


The Libyans and the Ethiopians could be those that fight. (Jer 46:9).
They could be merchants of Revelation 18. (Rev 18:3).
They could be angry with the Beast.
Either way they have fallen under the control of the Papacy.
Although they are starting to see through the Nations and Papacy's lies.



I also see these nations as examples for mans spiritual condition.
Much like the tribes of Israel that make up God's 144,000 these nations are divided into groups that oppose God.
God has his people split into twelve tribes that make up the 144,000.
The Beast has his kingdoms split into ten.


These ungodly nations show their different spiritual conditions.
They show that many will unite with the Papacy or Babylon.
They show God will have judgment for these conditions.


And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
(Ezekiel 38:3-5)


Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart. (Jer 9:26)


And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (Rev 20:7-8)


And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
(Revelation 16:13-17)