Stop at 4:55

Lets look at some quotes from the video.

For centuries Feast Keepers have celebrated Feast Of Weeks 50 Days from wavesheaf...
It is the tradition of our Fathers.

This should tell you something.
On one hand they say the whole world forgot when to keep the Sabbaths.
Now on the other hand they quote that for "centuries" it has been kept the same way.
This tells me maybe they did't forget.
Maybe this teaching is just a misunderstanding or even a lie.
We already went over the Seasons before.
And again the structure of the Lev 23 is this.
1. Keep my appointed times. Lev 23:1-2
2. Keep my weekly Sabbath. Lev 23:3 (based on the Seventh Day)
3. Keep my other appointed times. Lev 23:4 (based on their Seasons)
The weekly Sabbath is NOT regulated by the moon! It is regulated by the 7TH DAY!

Lev 23:15 "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:"

We looked at the seven sabbaths in the Calendar above.

The next verse starts with EVEN.
Even means the same as or equal.
Were looking at the the same event over with a different measurement.
The day after the seventh sabbath is even the same as fifty days.

Lev 23:16 "Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD."

Their interpretation of this is to count fifty more days after the seventh sabbath.
IF it said "From the morrow after" that would make sense.
But IT SAYS "Even unto the morrow" which means were counting To NOT From.

Even UNTO

meaning you are counting To NOT From

the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days;

We are counting FROM here Lev 23:15 THEN this verse starts and says UNTO the morrow after the seventh sabbath.

and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

So again... Even UNTO the day after the seventh sabbath shall count up to 50 days.
If you look at that calendar above that is exactly what happened.
It does NOT say that you count Even FROM the day....

Now lets look at Deuteronomy.

Deut 16:8-9 Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein. Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn."

Deuteronomy makes no mention of the 50 days, why because if the seven weeks add up to 50 days you can leave it out.
But if there was another fifty days to count after the seven weeks you could not leave it out.
So according to the calculation in the video would they say Deuteronomy forgot to include fifty days to the seven weeks?

Another problem is the way the video counts things.
They explain two different measuring sticks to calculate with.
If you started counting in weeks, why would you switch to days all of a sudden?
49 weeks + 50 days is their calculation.

It makes more sense to me to use two different calculations to get the same measurement.
You tell your worker to buid you something at 48 feet 3 inches or even unto 51 inches.
You give the measurement twice so that they understand how to get the correct count.
Now he comes and shows what he built, and it is twice as long as you wanted cause he added the two together.
Many would not be too happy with him.

Stop at 17:30

Lev 23:15 "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:"

Lev 23:16 "Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD."

Lev 23:17 "Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD."

Lev 23:18 "And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD."

Lev 23:19 "Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings."

Lev 23:20 "And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest."

Lev 23:21 "And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations."

Lev 23:22 "And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God."

I marked these because I was looking for oil or wine.
I did not find either.
The closest thing I could find was a drink offering.

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Which type of wheat was harvested for Pentecost?

Most agree this has to do with wheat, so we can move on to the next question.

In what season was this wheat harvested?

By comparing our calendar to the Hebrew calendar the Pentecost (the traditional way) falls on late May or early June.

In this video they explain that the harvest is later that way they can add another fifty days to get them to July.

Going by Acts and the calendar above I don't see how we can get outside of the fifty days.
I'm no farmer so I have no idea on when you harvest wheat.
So I did a google search for "earliest time to harvest wheat" sinse we are talking about firstfruits.
This is the first thing that came up.
Winter wheat is harvested starting in late May and through the summer.
Here is a chart from their web page.
I do see harvesting from May through August so I'm not sure what the problem is.

They then quote some scripture.

Daniel 2:35 "Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."

Daniel 2:35 does not sound to me like Firstfruits. Next.

Nehemiah 13:15 "In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals."

This sounds like the weekly Sabbath and yes during harvest season but this would of been after firstfruits.
So why would you not expect oil, wine, and grapes?

Numbers 18:12 "All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto the LORD, them have I given thee."

In this verse he acts like all the firstfruits are given at the same time and they fail to quote you the next verse.

Numbers 18:13 "And whatsoever is first ripe in the land, which they shall bring unto the LORD, shall be thine; every one that is clean in thine house shall eat of it."

You give of your firstfruits when they are ripe, the wheat, the wine, the oil may not all ripen at the same time.
The firstfruits of the wheat is what we want to know about.
So far I don't see any connection to the firstfruits of the wheat vs the firstfruits of the oil and the wine.
This sounds more to me about tithing than it does about waving the sheaf offereing much like Ex 34:19-20.

Exodus 34:22 "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

Here again we see a firstfruit harvest of wheat only, nothing about oil, wine or grapes.
He then goes on to say...

"Grapes and Wine are harvested in the summer." ... "In what season is wheat harvested in scripture?"

So far I have had no reason to find out when grapes or olives are being harvested.
Nothing has been said to connect them with the wave offering.
I will say as I'm writing this here in the middle of May that I have been seeing lots of grapes for sale at the local markets.
He says they are all harvested in the same season.
But clearly we have seen wheat harvested outside the season of grapes and olives.
He also mentions that you can't find spring or a spring harvest in the Bible.
Although not direct, I do think this is a reference to spring and maybe even seeing firstfruits before summer.

Matthew 24:32 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:"

Plus do we know if they even split the seasons into four back then?
Maybe they only had two?

Stop at 26:30

Quote:

There is no command and no mention of a pilgrimage feast in the third month.

As as opposed to what?
Neither was there one in July.
We do see many in Acts there on Pentecost from all different locations.

Weren't the Commandments given from Sinai at Pentecost?

I think he goes more into this later so we will come back to it.

Next he argues against the different calendars.
No one is saying these are God's calendars.
Were looking at whether the weekly Sabbath is continuous or not.

The count to Pentecost uses two distinct references of time.

See picture to the left, again it makes no sense to count that way.

And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

After quoting the scripture above he then goes on to talk about Complete Sabbaths.

Taken out of context, were not talking about what day you begin your week on.
This verse is talking about completing a cycle of seven sabbaths.
All seven days long if you ask me.
But if you go by thier time the new moon days will have to be left out of the weeks.
Meaning we skip over some days.
And I have no idea how he lands the date on the 7th.
Even on his calendar 7*7 = 49 which lands on the 8th meaning the 9th would be 50 days.
Now we get back to the Mt. Sinai question.
Lets start a new section for that.

Stop at 34:44

Which day did Israel arrive at Mt. Sinai?

Numbers 33:3 "And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians."

Exodus 19:1 "In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai."

What he is saying is that if Israel arrived the same day (15th) as they left (Num 33:3)(Ex 19:1).
Which means they would of not arrived in time for Pentecost which by my Calendar above is on the 5th.
After listening to a few studies on Mt. Sinai and Pentecost they do seem to have some things in common.

1. 50 Days - (Can't prove this one)
2. Ex 32:28 - Acts 2:41
3. Ex 24:7 - Acts 1:8

The giving of the Law was the old covenant.
The giving of the Spirit was the new covenant.

So if Israel took longer than 50 days to get to Sinai how could it have anything to do with Pentecost?
Well maybe it didn't take more than 50 days.
Again the reason why they say that is because of Ex 19:1.
If you add two months of time at 30 days year you will get 60 days.
And many Bible translations agree with that calculation.

Exactly two months after the Israelites left Egypt, they arrived in the wilderness of Sinai. (New Living Translation)

But after looking at other translations, some translate this differently.

On the first day of the third month after the Israelites left Egypt on that very day they came to the Desert of Sinai. (New International Version)

On the third new moon after the people of Israel had gone out of the land of Egypt, on that day they came into the wilderness of Sinai. (English Standard Version)

So this could of been the 1st and NOT the 15th which puts Israel there in time for Shavuot or Pentecost or Feast Of Weeks or however you want to call that day.
If that is true then there is nothing to this argument about Israel not arriving in time for Pentecost.

He then goes back and talks about how to calculate the time again.
He gives an example of how tall he is.
Yes going from the larger way of measuring to a smaller one does make sense if you can't count on the large one anymore.
But changing just to change, why would you do that?
And no I don't agree with his new punctuation of the verse.

Stop at 47:23

Winter vs Summer Wheat?
The next argument made is that Pentecost (which most conclude come from the Wheat Harvest) is the Summer Wheat not Winter Wheat.
Yes you can see clearly a summer wheat harvest as shown in his video.
When Jesus talked to the woman at the well yes he was talking about a summer harvest.

John 4:35 "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest?

But does that mean there can be no winter wheat harvest?
Proving there is a summer wheat harvest does not disprove a winter wheat harvest.
Plus like the video below says, many of the Feast Days had already past by the time they got the law for them.
So it wasn't till the following year or years that you would look back at what these Feast Days symbolized.
Was the promise land going to have the right conditions to plant a winter wheat harvest?
There is a good chance that they were going to be planting winter wheat.
It may have not been the main harvest but enough to get your year started.
Which means there is a good chance that counting 50 days is all you need for a harvest.

I do agree that the Bible talks most about a summer harvest but I don't think you can disprove a winter one.

Matthew 24:32 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:"

Stop at 102:12

The video now tries to show you three witnesses on how everything works out on their calendar.
These are points we already went over but lets go over them again.

First Witness - Four Months Till Harvest

John 4:35 "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest."

The video starts this off on the first month and counts ahead four months to line up with their version of the Pentecost date.
Problem is there is no starting time given as to when the woman met Jesus at the well.
Jesus said "there are yet four months" NOT that this will happen on the fourth month.
Big Difference!
We could easily move this back to reach the time of Pentecost as most teach.
Or even move the time ahead to reach Tabernacles.
This proves nothing since we can't verify the starting time.
But even by looking for a starting time, it don't look like it was at the beginning of the year or the first of the month.
John 2:13, John 2:23, John 4:5-7, John 5:1, John 6:4
So we know this was after a passover, before one of the other feast days, and before the next passover.
If I had to guess this was Pentecost and the four months after Pentecost would mean the Feast Of Tabernacles.
If you look at the picture to the left you can see it was exactly four months from Pentecost to Tabernacles.

Second Witness - Count 50 Days From There

Lev 23:15-16 "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: Even UNTO the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD."

I already went over this before, but again the word is NOT from it is UNTO.
We are to count UNTO the morrow after the seventh sabbath NOT from it.
Plus we can see no added 50 days by comparing scripture.

Deut 16:8-9 "Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein. Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn."

Again we have nothing to move ahead another fifty days.

Third Witness - Mt. Sinai

Ex 19:1 "In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai."

Again look at the different Bible versions.
The text could just as easily mean the first day of the third month.
And then by adding three days to that you can arrive at Mt. Sinai within your fifty days.
You do not need to add another fifty days to fit in Mt. Sinai like they are claiming.

And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.

Next they try and say that this feast was Pentecost.
A day that all these people were worshiping a golden calf.
If you look at our pagan days today, how many of them are overlapped with God's feast days?
None of them!
It is more likely they worshiped their pagan god on a pagan day.

Stop at 105:38

The word unit, does it mean 1 day or 50 days?

"The solemn assembly on the occasion of the festival of the sheaf having such great privileges, is the prelude to another festival of still greater importance; for from this day the fiftieth day is reckoned, making up the sacred number of seven sevens, with the addition of a unit as a seal to the whole; and this festival, being that of the first fruits of the corn, has derived its name of Pentecost from the number of fifty, (pentekostos)" The Works of Philo -- The "Special Laws, 11" page 584, chapter 30 (176) "THE SEVENTH FESTIVAL XXX" (176) - (translated by C. D. Yonge, Hendrickson Publishers, 2004).

How do they even mess this one up.
"The fiftieth day is reckoned"
How?
"Seven sevens, with the addition of a unit"
Meaning 7*7=49+1=50 - It's not that hard.
Then goes on to say Fifty a couple times over.... Not 49 + 50.
Simple Week vs Fifty Days is the forefeast of the greatest feast.
Nothing to hard to understand here either.

Immediately after comes the festival of the sacred moon (The Works Of Philo)

And if you ask me this is the god of the Lunar Sabbath keepers...the sacred moon.

Stop at 102:12

Is there a wheat harvest in the spring?
Yes there is, we already went over this.
Is there a pilgrimage in the third month?
They say no, but yet I did find this.

2 Chron 15:10-11 "So they gathered themselves together at Jerusalem in the third month, in the fifteenth year of the reign of Asa. And they offered unto the LORD the same time, of the spoil which they had brought, seven hundred oxen and seven thousand sheep."

My question then is, is there a pilgrimage in the fourth month?
No there is not.

Now with their reckoning of new moon days they try to add them into to the 50 days making it longer.
Which of course is not the right way to count the days.
7 days * 7 weeks = 49 days + 1 and you get 50 which would land on a Sunday.
The grapes are more likely harvested for the feast of tabernacles.
When Acts says "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine." to prove wine being harvested is a reach.
It says they are mocking!
It's like saying these guys are on something.
We don't take it seriously.